tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6948070944762476183.post3993582448514420242..comments2023-10-19T12:13:17.987-04:00Comments on Unexpected Holiness: ContradictionsDawn Fortunehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14722591049949538021noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6948070944762476183.post-13626409070834734642008-07-14T07:54:00.000-04:002008-07-14T07:54:00.000-04:00Top notch post Dawn.I guess what it all comes down...Top notch post Dawn.<BR/><BR/>I guess what it all comes down to is being comfortable with yourself and telling others, no matter which way they swing, to shove it. If my lifestyle threatens another person, that is their problem, not mine. <BR/><BR/>Your peak into the gay culture here is illuminating for me. I never considered gays as being so stratified. But it makes sense. Society certainly is. Every community has it's own odd set of dos and don'ts, proper and improper. When someone does not fit comfortably within the parameters, it makes folks uncomfortable.MRMacrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01414173517957120477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6948070944762476183.post-87024325531152192902008-07-13T20:46:00.000-04:002008-07-13T20:46:00.000-04:00I found this post incredibly thoughtful and fascin...I found this post incredibly thoughtful and fascinating. I'll be back to read more.Carlitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03989683666319924460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6948070944762476183.post-24983232947997695772008-07-12T16:44:00.000-04:002008-07-12T16:44:00.000-04:00You wrote >>I have to say that I generally get mor...You wrote >>I have to say that I generally get more grief from lesbians, particularly butch ones, for my sewing and cooking than I ever get from the straight world for welding and carpentry.<<<BR/><BR/>I think that part of your grief from butch lesbians might be that when groups see themselves as having a particular identity (for example - butch), it's taken as a rejection of that identity - essentially as if you're saying that it isn't good enough for you - when you choose to behave or present in a way that doesn't fit what members of that group think is the behavior that represents that identity. <BR/><BR/>I agree with you that it's power and insecurities. This is something that I've thought about a lot, too, as someone who was supposedly once a lesbian and who is transitioning to male (I argue with that - I may be transitioning to physically male, but I have always been male). Many lesbians want nothing to do with me, and I'm not sure what the reason is. I think it's because I'm either perceived as taking male privilege, because I'm perceived as rejecting lesbians, or as turning my back on the "community," or am supposedly secretly anti-woman. My partner has experienced this, also - she's turned her back on the community, supposedly, by being with me, so she's not a "real lesbian" and is unwelcome by some groups. <BR/><BR/>I think that people will always put others - and themselves - in little boxes. It's human nature - we have to categorize in order to make sense of the world. All we can do about it is to try and challenge the makeup of those boxes and get people to open their minds about others.Zackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710401185741395853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6948070944762476183.post-59427889297801818952008-07-11T23:18:00.000-04:002008-07-11T23:18:00.000-04:00you will pleased to know said lounge pants are on,...you will pleased to know said lounge pants are on, at this very moment. lace and all.<BR/><BR/>love. these. pants.<BR/><BR/>and thanks for this truly thought-provoking post my friend. i liked what i read.toklas23https://www.blogger.com/profile/07534567759867056933noreply@blogger.com